Comments on: The Shift http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2008/10/27/the-shift/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-shift Wayne C. Allen - a simple Zen guy - writes about living and relating elegantly Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:53:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: wayne http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2008/10/27/the-shift/#comment-319 wayne Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:59:49 +0000 http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/?p=200#comment-319 Hey guys, Thanks for the comment! I think that my "utility" test applies here. I think that someone knows what they are talking about if they do the thing successfully. Example: one of my clients gets relationship advice from her mom - who then talks about how terrible her own marriage is. The advice tends to be: "You made your bed, lie in it." In other words, :My marriage sucks and I want yours to suck too." My client actually listens to her mom about this! And for the record, we're glad you two are our friends, and have always valued your opinions, too! Hey guys,
Thanks for the comment! I think that my “utility” test applies here. I think that someone knows what they are talking about if they do the thing successfully. Example: one of my clients gets relationship advice from her mom — who then talks about how terrible her own marriage is. The advice tends to be: “You made your bed, lie in it.” In other words, :My marriage sucks and I want yours to suck too.” My client actually listens to her mom about this!
And for the record, we’re glad you two are our friends, and have always valued your opinions, too!

]]> By: Jim http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2008/10/27/the-shift/#comment-318 Jim Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:38:19 +0000 http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/?p=200#comment-318 Hello Wayne and Dar. Great article,really got us thinking. Our 2 friends were with us and I posed the question about who we would trust for an opinion/advice. We all agreed that it would depend on the problem (i.e. illness, financial etc.) BUT we all agreed that the spouse has a large part in the decision and is (in our case) a valuable asset. We all agreed that the list of trusted advisers would be very small. In fact the list of people we wouldn't ask for advice is MUCH larger than the ones we would ask. Based on our relationship with (both professional and social) you and Dar we would definitely ask for your advice/opinion. As we have in the past. Keep up the great articles. Jim Hello Wayne and Dar.
Great article,really got us thinking. Our 2 friends were with us and I posed the question about who we would trust for an opinion/advice. We all agreed that it would depend on the problem (i.e. illness, financial etc.) BUT we all agreed that the spouse has a large part in the decision and is (in our case) a valuable asset. We all agreed that the list of trusted advisers would be very small. In fact the list of people we wouldn’t ask for advice is MUCH larger than the ones we would ask. Based on our relationship with (both professional and social) you and Dar we would definitely ask for your advice/opinion. As we have in the past. Keep up the great articles.
Jim

]]> By: wayne http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2008/10/27/the-shift/#comment-317 wayne Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:03:16 +0000 http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/?p=200#comment-317 Hey Beth, Yeah, that's the thing - once you are on the path, the confirmations are steady over time. I amaze myself over people who start this and say, "I knew this when I was 20, but I ignored it." I'm glad I stuck those exercises in - I was heading into an explanation, and that old workshop popped into my head. I'm looking forward to unpacking it, too! Hey Beth,
Yeah, that’s the thing — once you are on the path, the confirmations are steady over time. I amaze myself over people who start this and say, “I knew this when I was 20, but I ignored it.“
I’m glad I stuck those exercises in — I was heading into an explanation, and that old workshop popped into my head.
I’m looking forward to unpacking it, too!

]]> By: Beth Montes http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2008/10/27/the-shift/#comment-316 Beth Montes Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:44:44 +0000 http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/?p=200#comment-316 I've already started my homework and am excited about it! I've done similar things many times, but not for a while. I see that after thinking about what I want to do, after typing and erasing and changing, after testing it to see how it feels, I come up with much the same thing I did 2 years ago and 5 years and even 40 years ago. I can't wait to see how you unpack this next week! It's also pleasant to note that I'm doing many of the things that I want to do. Some fine tuning is needed, but it feels good to be on a path that I've freely chosen. I’ve already started my homework and am excited about it! I’ve done similar things many times, but not for a while. I see that after thinking about what I want to do, after typing and erasing and changing, after testing it to see how it feels, I come up with much the same thing I did 2 years ago and 5 years and even 40 years ago.

I can’t wait to see how you unpack this next week!

It’s also pleasant to note that I’m doing many of the things that I want to do. Some fine tuning is needed, but it feels good to be on a path that I’ve freely chosen.

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