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	<title>Comments on: Disillusionment</title>
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	<description>Wayne C. Allen - a simple Zen guy - writes about living and relating elegantly</description>
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		<title>By: Wayne_C_Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2010/01/18/disillusionment/#comment-2221</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne_C_Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment reminded me of sending people (and myself... and Darbella) off to The Haven for personal development training. They come home and experience what you are describing, and I&#039;d remind them that they, not their loved ones, signed on for the new learning. 
I suggest to my clients that this kind of work often requires a change of friends / spouses, etc., as the &quot;contract has changed.&quot; 
I&#039;ll add your idea to my list of articles to write - thanks for the suggestion!  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment reminded me of sending people (and myself… and Darbella) off to The Haven for personal development training. They come home and experience what you are describing, and I’d remind them that they, not their loved ones, signed on for the new learning.<br />
I suggest to my clients that this kind of work often requires a change of friends / spouses, etc., as the “contract has changed.“<br />
I’ll add your idea to my list of articles to write — thanks for the suggestion!</p>
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		<title>By: Niko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your way of depicting disillusionment! It reminds me of what Anthony DeMello and Echart Tolle have written, except with even more straightforward focus. Thank you for that. 
 
What you might consider writing, too, is what happens after therapy: you see the world for what it is, yet you also see that most people around you do not see what is so clear. They continue living as they always did, the &quot;cured one&quot; no longer has much desire to be part of the everyday mental machinations of the so-called everyday life. When you stop bullshitting yourself doesn&#039;t mean others will do so too (a platitude). Utter loneliness comes from realising that after an enlightenment of any sort one is alone. Very alone. Therapists do not prepare their patients for this. Please write something on that topic too, </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your way of depicting disillusionment! It reminds me of what Anthony DeMello and Echart Tolle have written, except with even more straightforward focus. Thank you for that. </p>
<p>What you might consider writing, too, is what happens after therapy: you see the world for what it is, yet you also see that most people around you do not see what is so clear. They continue living as they always did, the “cured one” no longer has much desire to be part of the everyday mental machinations of the so-called everyday life. When you stop bullshitting yourself doesn’t mean others will do so too (a platitude). Utter loneliness comes from realising that after an enlightenment of any sort one is alone. Very alone. Therapists do not prepare their patients for this. Please write something on that topic too,</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/2010/01/18/disillusionment/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, nothing like a wake up - and preferably of the survivable kind. Would that more people didn&#039;t need to hit bottom first (especially dangerous in an airplane ;-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, nothing like a wake up — and preferably of the survivable kind. Would that more people didn’t need to hit bottom first (especially dangerous in an airplane <img src='http://www.phoenixcentre.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a simlilar &quot;pilot illusion&quot;.  My first landing at a major airport, where the runways were 200&#039; wide, gave me the opposite illusion to the one above.  I thought I was almost on the runway, when in fact I was 15&#039; or so above it... and flying way too close to stalling the aircraft (think dropping onto the runway) onto the runway when the &quot;dis-illusionment&quot; happened.  Fortunately, like the hero of your story above, I had just enough time to react and &quot;go round&quot;; one second of inaction would have see a crash...
I&#039;m guessing that once one is dis-illusioned and provided the consequence is of inaction is adequately motivating, we&#039;ll all act.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a simlilar “pilot illusion”.  My first landing at a major airport, where the runways were 200′ wide, gave me the opposite illusion to the one above.  I thought I was almost on the runway, when in fact I was 15′ or so above it… and flying way too close to stalling the aircraft (think dropping onto the runway) onto the runway when the “dis-illusionment” happened.  Fortunately, like the hero of your story above, I had just enough time to react and “go round”; one second of inaction would have see a crash…<br />
I’m guessing that once one is dis-illusioned and provided the consequence is of inaction is adequately motivating, we’ll all act.<br />
R</p>
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